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| Grey |
Posted - 07/04/2009 : 05:57:41 AM
Those who've read about my encounter with the triangular UFO will know that I've had an encounter with a UFO before, but I had one before that too.
I was outside looking up at the sky when I saw 2 white/silver "orbs" in the sky. They were moving like a piece of paper caught in the wind, they were getting higher and higher. When they were so high that they appeared like small pinpricks of light in the sky, I looked at them through binoculars. I remember seeing them moving like they were lurching left and right without binoculars, but viewed through binoculars they appeared to be vibrating. They became fainter and fainter, then disappeared from view. My friend also saw one black one. This was 2 years ago.
Three days ago I saw another white/silver craft, this time just moving in a straight line towards the SE. It was moving very fast, too fast to be a plane, also too high.
Last night I saw 2 lights above the trees near my home, they kept the same distance apart, leading me to believe they are part of the same craft. The first light was very bright, as bright as the moon, and almost the size of the moon in the sky. It was not a spotlight, as there was no beam coming from it. The last light was as bright, but smaller and looked like a star. It was moving very slowly, and it was about 5 miles from me at the most, and about 1000 feet up. These lights appeared for about 10 seconds, then they faded away.
I'm starting to think I live in a UFO hotspot...
Also, happy 4th of July to all Americans here!
If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
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| treborn |
Posted - 10/09/2009 : 05:20:36 AM
After setting out looking up at the sky most of my sightings from yellow lights to flickering blue and red lights have just gona away after 3 weeks of trying to find this same sighting agin has just vanished.
My life as i know it will change!
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| Daan Tant |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 2:58:34 PM
We're on our way :P
"Don't challenge the world to change. Challenge yourself to change the world." - Brandon Dennis |
| calperia |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 2:48:58 PM
Hey, Daan!
Thanks for understanding!  In truth, we ALL have maturing to do, as we grow and develop over the years. Our bodies may mature at a relatively early age, but I think our minds keep on maturing in a very real sense, as we learn and "expand our horizons." That's part of becoming an enlightened being.
I think we're well on our way here, don't you? 
Have a great week!
Your Pal.
Cal  |
| Daan Tant |
Posted - 07/29/2009 : 09:30:57 AM
It makes sense to me and I don't have anything to add to it.
To get back to the whole "maturity" topic, I was just being a bit defensive and I did understand what you meant with "some maturing to do". :)
"Don't challenge the world to change. Challenge yourself to change the world." - Brandon Dennis |
| calperia |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 9:35:17 PM
Hey, Daan!
You seem to have taken my message wrong. I did not say you have no maturity. As a matter of fact, you carry on these written conversations with a level of maturity that had me thinking you were older than 16. That's why I expressed some surprise when I found out that you are, indeed, 16.
But, that being said, what I wrote in my earlier post to you was this: "at 16 years of age, you have SOME maturing to do." (emphasis mine). Yes, it IS up to you to decide. But, as you get older, you will understand my meaning more clearly.
Like El, I am surprised and very pleased that we have young folk the caliber of Brandon, Grey, and yourself here at the forum. And...well, you'll have to excuse me if, once in awhile, my maternal instincts kick in and I get a wee bit protective of you guys.
I mean no disrespect, and I certainly do not mean to judge anyone on the basis of age. Again, I agree with El on this point: Our energy-beings (spirits, what have you) are ageless, and a young body can hold an "Old Soul." So what's in the "Cardiac Cadillac" (a/k/a the body) is more important than the outer trappings.
Now, on to the topic of the Ashtar Command: I read the messages from the A.C.in your post, and, if they are genuine, I find no fault in them. It seems as if they believe in creating one's own reality, which is in line with what I believe after years of studying Quantum Physics and the Holographic Universe Theory.
Several years ago, we had a topic on this, and (as I recall) several good discussions. For those of you who are relatively new to the forum, I'll just say that I believe this universe functions like a huge hologram, and that "reality" (as we understand the term) is not the solid, immutable thing that we are taught it is. Rather, it is malleable and can be changed by the energy of our thoughts, our intentions, through meditation and belief.
"Reality" can become fixed through common belief systems (what I term "consensus realities"): When societies bond together, and the people within those societies are taught to believe something (for instance, "solid bodies cannot pass through walls unscathed"), then that becomes their reality. They create it and it is fixed.
In that sense, if the A.C. are serious about getting people to bond together to create a peaceful, abundant world, then that is a good thing. But they will be up against millenia of what I call "in the box thinking"--and it will be difficult to change the consensus realities around us...not impossible, mind you; just difficult.
It often takes a long time to change peoples' minds; and some consensus realities become almost as dear as a well-worn blankie . Folks are reluctant to give them up.
Still, I believe it is worth the effort!
Does that make sense to you? Let me know your thoughts!
Have a great week!
Your Pal,
Cal
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| Daan Tant |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 09:54:38 AM
I'm going to participate as well, through listening to music and simply thinking about problems.
Let's hope for something good :D
"Don't challenge the world to change. Challenge yourself to change the world." - Brandon Dennis |
| Elrick |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 09:20:17 AM
Hmmm so this event is supposed to happen later today. Sounds like they are borrowing a bit from quantum mechanics and hoping to change the world simply by wishing or willing it into existence. I plan to watch the news channels all day tomorrow and watch for any signs of change. Perhaps enough people will participate to effect change in the whole of human consciousness. If we are creating this reality collectively, it is unknown the percentage required to effect overall change. Im willing to give it a shot. It can't do any harm and only has the potential for good, as far as I can tell. If nothing changes, then no harm done. But if something does, then WOOT!!! I guess I'll have to wait and see if tomorrow truly is a new day.
"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice." |
| Elrick |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 08:56:04 AM
Yep, sorry for straying from topic Tre.
I'm a topic jumper. The first stage is admitting you have a problem. I got that part down. Still looking for that 12 step program though.
Daan, to be honest, I prefer to be underestimated. It has far more advantages then being over-estimated. Well anyways, Im going to dig more into the email you received now.
"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice." |
| Daan Tant |
Posted - 07/28/2009 : 08:42:03 AM
Elrick: I am quite aware of this problem in society, and I do not take offence when someone judges me by my age or appearance, but I always like to point out that despite my age, I am not to be underestimated.
I am a person that wants the last word, but won't force it upon someone.
Now, to get back to the subject, Ashtar Command, I have recieved a rather... strange e-mail:
Fire The Grid II
Create The New World
http://www.infinitebeing.com/grid/
In July, 2007 millions of people learned about the original Fire The Grid event and participated in the greatest coming together of spiritual minds ever!
That historic gathering is about to be repeated.
On Tuesday July 28th, 2009, Fire The Grid II will occur for one hour. During that time, a window of opportunity will open where people can use the incredibly powerful incoming energy to create the New World of their dreams.
This is a rare opportunity for spiritually-minded people to come together and shape the future of this planet. For one hour, we will have the chance to create a world where people enjoy peace and freedom, and where everyone has the chance to express their abilities and contribute to a new tomorrow.
Join us and help fire the grid of human consciousness around the world. Fire the planetary grid with your love, your inspiration, and your vision of a loving and peaceful planet.
Fire The Grid II: Create The New World
This historic one-hour gathering of minds will begin at:
New York time – 6:19 pm on Tuesday, 28th July
Los Angeles time – 3:19 pm on Tuesday, 28th July
British Summer Time – 11:19 pm on Tuesday, 28th July
Sydney, Australia’s time will be a day later – 8:19 am on Wednesday July 29th
New Zealand – 10:19 am on Wednesday July 29th
PLEASE SEND THIS INFO TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!
A Word From the Organizer
Shelley Yates was given the information on Fire The Grid I & II by Light Beings. She has this to say about these events:
"On July 17th 2007, human beings from every corner of the world participated in the largest mass meditation the earth has ever seen. Now, in 2009, the grid is well lit, meaning that there are more humans awake and aware than ever before in the history of our time here on earth. It means we have many conduits working at their maximum level to facilitate great change. It means that we no longer have to live in the world that was but can create the world we choose. It means that there are enough of us willing and ready to assist in global change. People from all over the world are ready and are together.."
How to Participate
Shelley goes on to say, "We will sit in contemplation of the world that will be. This is an hour of earthly creation with the highest degree of pure intention. Use meditation, prayer, thought, music or intention - any tool of your choosing to manifest the world we so desire into being. Imagine millions of humans sitting, taking a stand for something better; a world of equality of balance of harmony and joy. We will gather for one hour and hold the vision of a world fed, a world of abundance for all, a world of joyful experiences. This world holds pure potential for all humans.
"With this in mind, set about seeing in your mind what that world looks like. See green fields, beautiful clear rivers and clean air. Now see abundance for everyone; see people smiling, happy, well fed, well cared for. See humans sharing and cooperating. What does that look like, you ask? Simply imagine it. Really see it in your mind. The imagination is the paintbrush of our creations. See it here during this very special energy time. See it here and dream it into being. We will collectively see it and dream it into being. Remember you are not alone, there are millions of us intending this new world into place.
"Now put details into your dream, see all of the beauty you desire. Add color and delight. The more detailed your dream, the more tangible we make our intention. See the people of the world living in harmony not only with each other but with the planet itself. See engineering taking a turn to work with nature for the betterment of both all humanity and the earth itself, working together for the betterment of all. People all sharing in a plan to challenge the old ideas and incorporate new, better, healthier ideas. The winds of change can be directed and this is our opportunity to consciously choose that direction. It is the time of a great gathering, a uniting of minds to create a better way, a way without exclusion. We can change the world. It begins with our hearts and minds."
"Visualize peace and abundance for all.. This is the time we see the world we choose to live in. See it in all its splendor; you must see even that which you could not believe to be true. Imagine in your mind a community sharing and caring for all. Imagine a world of plenty using systems that work with our earth for a sustainable coexistence with humanity. See peoples' needs and desires met in a loving, peaceful manner cooperating so that all will benefit.
"See it! What does it look like? See the people in your life living in harmony. See the children of the world in comfort and delight choosing just like us. A cooperative planet sharing the journey, seeing to the needs of all, including our great Mother Earth."
For further information, visit: www.FireTheGrid.com
"Don't challenge the world to change. Challenge yourself to change the world." - Brandon Dennis |
| treborn |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 11:18:18 PM
Its totaly of subject but i get the point in where you come from im not smart and shouldnt say nothing but i wish we could stick to the subject on this site.
And i totaly sound like and ass saying that but that just a wish but nice on the comment El.
I'm about like you on that matter.I tend to judge people for there wittyness but it always get me in the down slot.So just some advice and might be good for the future don't judge at all cuz most the stuff on this site is very interresting if you just take the time and read.
Most the time i set and stair at nothing!!
My life as i know it will change!
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| Elrick |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 10:35:17 PM
I didnt know you were 16 til recently Daan, but then again, it is of absolutely no importance to me. I probably seen it somewhere, but didnt acknowledge it. I try to base how I judge a person on their intelligence level. I realize that this is probably just as bad a judging somebody on appearance or age. I probably shouldnt judge at all but you know how that goes. Intelligence is important to me so that's the first thing I tend to evaluate about a person. I don't mean to consciously. I do the same thing with women. I tend to judge them on what they say. I don't fully understand sexual desire on some levels. I'm not interested in the shell. I'm interesting in the consciousness accessing the shell. The ghost in the machine, you might say. The age or condition of your physical body is rather insignificant from my perspective.
Try not to take offense to the feeling of your age being a hindrance. It is common to be judged on appearance or age. But you know we are a society that is very guilty of this so you have to turn it around and expect it. Then if you don't get it, you will be pleasantly surprised. That's what I do sometimes for things I don't like, but can't change. I first acknowledge them as a common factor or characteristic, flaw...whatever. Then there should be no surprise when it pops up in society. Like how uncomfortable I am when one of my friends sees an attractive girl and feels the need to comment on her body. I can't stand it. I'm waiting for her to say something and they are already having sex with her in their minds. I just don't understand it. I see it in women too. My youngest sister can't look at a guy without commenting on how "hot" he is.
So I have come to accept this about the human species. I expect everyone to be immorally bound by their sexual desires. It's just a part of our current condition and there is nothing I can do about it. Then, when I meet somebody who is not like that, it is such a treat. So I would suggest that you expect everyone to treat you like a naive 16 year old kid. Then you shouldnt be offended when somebody treats you that way. You should expect it. You can't control what people do. All you can control is how you react to it and that's where it really matters anyway.
But to play devils advocate here, our fellow forum members' concern for you is well warranted. These groups can be very dangerous. I've noticed more Scientology commercials lately and I get that sinking feeling everytime one comes on. I don't think you will be bought in by these guys. You know enough to not hand your life over to somebody else. You will walk your own path, not somebody elses. We have many more young minds here then I realized but you wouldnt know it just from reading the posts. I have to say that you all seem very intelligent.
Think of it this way. We survive just fine without a moderator. The work I have to do to keep the forum looking half-way decent, does not come from you guys. Go to a game forum or your average forum and there is usually flame wars going on, moderators constantly having to lock or delete topics, and just your usual various levels of immaturity. We don't have that problem here. The majority of posters may be of the younger variety but this is not reflected in the quality of posts. We have a very good groups of minds gathered here. In fact, at times it is likely to be even a little intimidating to some. I have always suspected that we get way more readers then posters here.
Crap, I'm rambling again. Thought I had that under control.  Oops, guess not. Well I'll just stop here then, hehe.
"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice." |
| treborn |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 9:52:21 PM
Daan im 26 and totaly agree.
Dont underestamate the person u might or might not know!
I say that for the simple fact that i travel in my own world to fasinate myself with the disseased.By opening the portals of a new life.By doing this i practice any and every way to contact the dead.
My life as i know it will change!
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| Daan Tant |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 5:38:46 PM
It is up to me to decide how much maturing I have to do, and as it seems so far, I am far more mature than most 25-30 year olds.
I don't like to be underestimated, but I can't blame anyone that does not know me in real life for doing that.
"Don't challenge the world to change. Challenge yourself to change the world." - Brandon Dennis |
| calperia |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 4:46:33 PM
Hey, Daan!
I'm sure the other forum members are just concerned about you, and don't want you to get involved with something that could turn out to be a scam, or a group of loony "Space Brothers"--as there are, unfortunately, alot of them around. They're the ones who make us all look like idiots.
I don't think you're stupid. I do think, at 16 years of age, you have some maturing to do (Yeah, I know: Now I probably sound like all the other adults you know, eh? ). Just be careful. If you are seeking to do research, just be aware that cults (if this is one) are very adept at persuasion. If they can persuade whole groups of adults to do dumb things, like drink poisoned Kool-Aid...well, what could they do to a young person seeking the answers to the mysteries of "life and the universe"?
You may be right: perhaps humans, who have contact with some alien civilization MIGHT utilize the internet...Still, my gut tells me to be wary of this particular group. Remember, I visited their main website and read their postings. The "red flags" went up, and I've learned over the years to listen to my "inner nudgings."
I just hope you do the same. Okay? We care about you, Kiddo!
Have a good evening!
Your Pal,
Cal |
| Daan Tant |
Posted - 07/27/2009 : 11:57:17 AM
I did contact them online, and today, I got a response (the person I contacted was on vacation so it took a while). I hate to see that you really think that it is the ET's themselves that are active online, it's supposedly, humans who have come in contact with them or are reincarnations of some of high ranked ET's in the organisation. As we all know, humans who want to spread some sort of information will always use the available mediums to do so, so why wouldn't the internet be a good way for a group of people to spread what they think is correct?
Don't call me crazy, I'm skeptical as well and I'm just doing some research and stuff...
So, I have had a reply from one of the "commanders", she has told me that she would take the information I have provided and meditate with it to see what she can "track down" about me. She has also sent me a few e-mails with information about the Ashtar Command.
I will post everything in a topic once I have enough information.
"Don't challenge the world to change. Challenge yourself to change the world." - Brandon Dennis |
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