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MomentOfNow
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 Posted - 10/14/2009 : 4:31:28 PM
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Originally posted by Elrick
Thanks MON (can I call you that? what would you prefer? I'm a bit lazy) Thanks for the info. Im adding it to the "Bad Medicine" section of Free the Herd right now. And brandon, thanks for the Vitamin D link. I might add it too just to let people know about the importance of Vitimin d. Thx guys.
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Ok, I've added the links and added a small bit of info about the importance of Vit D to the Bad Medicine section. Thanks for the contributions guys.
"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice."
No probs. And yea its fine to call me MON.....its only a forum name after all and i would presume it is a handfull to type all the time lol 
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HumanAlien
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Posted - 10/14/2009 : 11:46:28 PM
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Thank goodness for copy and paste. I'm lazy to so i just copy your
forum name and paste it where i need it.
I know what they are talking about though. My name went from
humanalien to ha but that's cool.
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Elrick
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 12:20:31 AM
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Yeah I'm El. I get to be the god of Saturn, hehe. I don't mind. If anyone does mind being called the shorthand of their name, please speak up. I just do it out of laziness. It just seems so efficient. I like saving time. If it bothers anyone though, just let me know.
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Elrick
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 11:51:10 AM
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I just saw on MSNBC that the FDA is going to start cracking down on internet scams. Sounds good at first aye? Well these scams they are supposedly going after are people who are supposedly profitting off of the swine flu scare. They are going after people selling supposed swine flu medicines. Well, I have 2 issues with this.
1) Does this mean they are going after people offering home remedy products and info like c. silver, MMS, Vit D pushers, etc...? Sounds a little to me like they don't like competition and are trying to eliminate the ulternatives to getting the vaccine....(but then again, I love conspiracies so...)
2) If they are going after people profitting off of the swine flu scare then is Baxter, WHO or pharmacueticle companies and all of the people pushing fear propaganda and claiming that this flu is so deadly, telling you that YOU NEED YOUR SHOT, going to be looked at too? Of course not....silly me.
I don't know about you but when I hear the FDA is going to act, I'm immediately suspicious, lol.
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Edited by - Elrick on 10/16/2009 12:04:07 PM |
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Grey
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Posted - 10/20/2009 : 04:13:14 AM
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Apparently the UK gov is trying to get all the people in the NHS and other healthcare professionals to get the swine flu vaccine.
90% of them are refusing to have it.
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Elrick
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Posted - 10/20/2009 : 08:33:33 AM
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Wow, 90%....that's awesome. A lot of people over here are getting the vaccine without even thinking twice. I'm not getting it. They will have to hold me down, kicking and screaming. Your average American is so uninformed, it's sad. I've been trying to tell everyone I can about the dangers of vaccines. Some listen, some don't but I still have to try. Over here, they are still trying to scare people into getting it by constantly giving us updates to how many people have died, and telling people that there may be a shortage of the vaccine (good! dump that crap down the drain) so you better rush out and get one fast before they are all gone, lol. I havent met anyone who has suffered any more than usual from the flu this year and I definately don't know anyone who has died from it. My guess is that this number that keeps rising of deaths from swine flu is either a lie or they are adding anyone to the list of swine flu victims who happens to die while it is suspected that they had flu symptoms when they died. Some people have been told they have swine flu without being examined (but they could just have normal flu). My guess is that they are adding anyone to the list who happens to die while they might have had the h1n1 virus, whether it had anything to actually do with their death or not.
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Edited by - Elrick on 10/20/2009 08:51:36 AM |
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FrmBlvr
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Grey
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 4:21:16 PM
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The vaccine is now officialy starting in Britain, "Vulnerable people and pregnant women first"
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"The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall." - Che Guevara.
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HumanAlien
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USA
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Posted - 10/22/2009 : 1:10:12 PM
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Now the news is saying that the H1N1 swine flu shot is 100 percent
safe and is telling everyone to go out and get their shot before
they run out of it.
I don't care what they say because i know what is in those vaccines
and i'm not going to take a shot, no matter what they say.
I'm even hearing that the regular flu shot has live swine flu virus
in it so that you will be more inclined to take that shot too.
Not me though. I don't take any vaccines.
It's bad enough that the water we drink is being poisoned and the
food we eat is genetically modified along with poisoning it to.
The government is really trying to knock down the population by
the way i see it.
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HumanAlien
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Elrick
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Posted - 10/24/2009 : 2:55:04 PM
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The fear propaganda is coming at us from all sides now. I like how they mention in that article near the end that the government doesnt test everyone so they dont have a exact count. Yeah, no duh! If they gave the exact count for deaths from h1n1 alone, nobody would fear it or rush out to get vaccinated. This whole vaccine business is stupid. The logic behind vaccines is that you are giving yourself the virus now in hopes that you dont get it later....that's just stupid.....bad, bad medicine.
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Grey
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Posted - 10/24/2009 : 4:40:42 PM
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Vaccines work, as the virus is dead, and it basically gives your body that disease's signature.
Thing is, this isn't a usual vaccine, if you look at the fact that already in Britain 2 people have died, it should be tested thoroughly first.
I don't think it's government made, I think it was probably created by pharmaceutical companies to push the vaccine and make a profit.
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-Oscar Wilde, The ballad of Reading Gaol.
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"The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall." - Che Guevara.
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Elrick
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Posted - 10/24/2009 : 5:59:00 PM
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My take on it is that how well vaccines work is highly debatable. The evidence for the potential in doing more harm then good is undeniable. I am not so sure that just because a virus is labeled as "dead" means you should be injecting it directly into your muscle. And it is by no means just a dead virus that is being injected into you. The don't even have to disclose to you all the contents of the vaccine. And if suddenly people start dying from it, they now have laws in place to protect them from any form of legal action. But regardless, they were saying early on that the current strain of h1n1 is not very deadly, in fact many claim it is less deadly then even the 2 previous normal flu seasons. So what they started pushing was that the virus would mutate into a more deadly strain this fall when the normal flu season starts. Viruses can mutate in all sorts of directions, sometimes more deadly, sometimes weaker. But the vaccine that was created to supposedly save everyone from from h1n1 will be ineffective if the virus does mutate, simply because it was made from current h1n1 strains, making the current vaccine totally illogical. It's total BS. Vaccines are a last resort to prevent a truly epidemic situation....not the first line of defense. Vaccines inhibit your natural immune system. We are playing with fire and risking permanent damage to the DNA (the potential for data corruption in the DNA is horrendous). Bottom line, whether you think vaccines are safe or not, STAY AWAY FROM THE H1N1 VACCINE. Nothing about it makes any sense.
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Edited by - Elrick on 10/24/2009 6:12:41 PM |
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Grey
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Posted - 10/25/2009 : 09:11:36 AM
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Believe me El, I have no intention of having the vaccine, the virus itself is weaker than ordinary flu, and as you've said a vaccine is the last resort, and for a virus as weak as this one there is no point in having a vaccine.
Obviam Machina
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"It's not just idle fact, it's cold hard speculation"
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"And all, but Lust, is turned to dust
In Humanity's machine."
-Oscar Wilde, The ballad of Reading Gaol.
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"The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall." - Che Guevara.
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Elrick
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Posted - 10/25/2009 : 09:39:49 AM
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Good deal, I didnt think you would get it yourself unless forced to. I'm not getting it either. A news feed just went acrossed the bottom of the brainwashing box that said "3000 people line up for free h1n1 vaccine in California". It made my heart sink when I read the line.
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Swine Flu - Here we go again
