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Grey
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Spain
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 Posted - 06/20/2009 : 1:16:24 PM
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Hey all,
I wonder if everyone on the forum has heard of Shadow People/Ghosts
If not, here's a brief run-down:
Shadow People/Ghosts are spiritual beings that are perceived as...well, shadows. They are often seen in the corner of the eye, and rarely in the centre of the viewer's vision.
They take on 4 forms usually:
1: A "Man wearing a hat"
2: A "Cowled figure" Looks a lot like the grim reaper really.
3: A black cloud.
4: Perfectly humanoid, but with no features, like a human that has been dipped in Tar.
The first 3 move by floating, and when seen flashing onto a wall or out of sight, as to perceive nothing but a shadow.
Number 4 moves in a "lolloping" fashion, akin to an ape, swinging it's arms as it walks.
I've seen numbers
1 and 3
Never 2 and 4 however.
Mediums often state these presences to be hostile, and very dangerous, so maybe it is lucky I haven't seen the other 2.
I do wonder if perhaps number 2 is a presence that used to kill people, which is where the legend of the Grim Reaper comes from.
One more interesting thing, the shadow people are also part of American Indian folklore, as well as modern folklore.
So, have any other members had contact with these beings?
For more info on Shadow people, visit these links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people
http://ghoststudy.com/new5/shadows.htm
If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
Obviam Machina
"It's not just idle fact, it's cold, hard speculation"
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Daan Tant
Galactic Member
Belgium
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Posted - 06/20/2009 : 1:25:59 PM
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I to have seen these...
I found a very interesting photo some time ago, let me see if I can find it...
Here's the gallery: http://ghoststudy.com/new5/shadow_gallery.htm
Now for the photo I'm looking for... can't find it...
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Carson Dane
M.I.B. Member
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 05:17:53 AM
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I’ve seen something like types 2 & 3.
Type 2 didn’t impress me as grim reaper but it did have an angular head I could see when it peeked around the corner at the hallway. I never saw its body just that head peeking around the corner: triangular, flat black, with a single off-white “eye”. I had time to study this one. I wrote about it and posted the excerpt on another site. I was told that what I saw was something of a more positive bent than a real shadow person – that what I saw was an astral projection from another person in the house at the time, or a deceased relative looking in on that other person.
Type 3 was flat black. Again, I saw just the head, peeking down from the stairway ledge. It was not cloudy, but roundish and flat black – without angles, and no “eye”. This one, I saw at a different location, and it did not stay around long enough for me to study.
These things disappeared quickly if I tried to look straight at them. Sight seemed to be their only sense.
Again, I was advised that what I saw were not shadow people.
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Grey
Galactic Member
Spain
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Posted - 06/23/2009 : 07:23:46 AM
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Interesting Carson, could you give us a link to the excerpt?
If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
Obviam Machina
"It's not just idle fact, it's cold, hard speculation"
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Carson Dane
M.I.B. Member
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Posted - 06/27/2009 : 5:19:42 PM
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| There seems to be a problem at the original site I posted on, so I couldn't make a hyperlink for you. The excerpt is 8 or 10 paragraphs, or about 850 words. Is it OK to post that here? It's a true story, however, to tell it, I created a fictional character, investigator Scott Jones. |
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Elrick
Galactic Member
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2009 : 5:40:39 PM
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I dont mind. Sure post it. Might be an interesting read.
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Carson Dane
M.I.B. Member
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Posted - 06/27/2009 : 9:59:11 PM
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At the apartment and during the early years at the condominium,
there were a series of encounters with ghosts and shadow people,
especially when John was a baby and toddler. To me, shadow
people were like ghosts, but not having human features. With
shadow people, I was never certain that I was in the presence of
something that was once human and died.
When Michelle and I were newlyweds, we moved into an
apartment in Huntington Beach, a beach city south of Los Angeles.
Both Michelle and I worked full-time. I worked the day shift, plus
erratic overtime. My schedule included a complicated arrangement of
varying weekdays off and weekend days on. Michelle worked a swing
shift, with day care for newborn John at her place of work. When I had a weekday off, I stayed home and took care of John. It was during these weekdays off that I would see the shadow person in the apartment.
Usually an hour or two before Michelle arrived home, after putting
John to bed in the adjoining room, I would see the shadow person
look around the hallway corner leading to his room. Because my job
required me to become familiar with certain laws and legal terms, I
often found myself at the kitchen table, engrossed in reading case law about contracts, torts, civil procedures, real estate, and environmental regulations.
From the kitchen table, out of the corner of my eye, I could
see the shadow person looking at me. To me, the shadow person’s
purpose there was to confirm that I was completely occupied before it
proceeded into John’s room. I had been studying it since discovering it a few weeks after we moved into the apartment.
To me, ghosts and shadow people were just quantities of
consciousness separated from once-living beings. They were
additionally similar because, for whatever reason, their consciousnesses stayed nearby instead of reincarnating or going elsewhere in the universe. The difference between the two, as far as I was concerned, was in how the consciousness cleaved from the body when a person died. If the cleaving of the consciousness from the body was not complete, for whatever reason, a scintilla of physical mass left attached to the consciousness resulted in a shadow person. Under the right light and weather conditions, a ghost could appear as a flat black object, or shadow person, with few discernable features. The other characteristic of shadow people that impressed me was their apparent visual acuity.
I noted that any attempt to turn my head or to look at a shadow
person resulted in it ducking away quickly. I had experimented with
speaking English to it while holding my head steady and viewing it out of the corner of my eye. This resulted in no responses.
Late at night, I wondered if the shadow person was of an old
person who liked newborns. I tried speaking to it in Spanish, with the same result: no response. Nevertheless, whenever I attempted to look up to get a better, more direct look, it would quickly duck out of sight and disappear. I noted further that the more I tried to look at it the less frequently it appeared, and that the more I concentrated on controlling my head movements and body language when it was there, the more frequently it appeared in the apartment. After a while, I noticed it had an eye. The eye was a small, flat, off-white colored circle in the middle of its angular, flat black head. The presence of an eye indicated visual directionality to me, meaning that the shadow person had to look in the direction it wanted to see.
Without setting up an experiment to determine its sensitivity to
low frequency noise, I employed an educated guess that, because of its very low-density mass, it would not be sensitive to vibrations from my footsteps. This, and its dependence on directional visual acuity, meant that I could sneak up on it. After confirming its pattern to check me at the kitchen table before proceeding into the baby’s room, I was ready to get a look at its crib-side manners. At the right moment, I moved quickly and quietly from the kitchentable. Reaching the end of the short hallway and using my peripheral vision to look at a right angle into the room, I instantly realized that I would not see the shadow person, as the room was dark inside. I proceeded to the side of the crib, expecting John to be asleep. However, I could see John lying awake and laughing, a smile on his face.
In recalling this experience, Scott wondered if perhaps shadow
people could be extensions of other living beings. He wondered if the shadow person he and Michelle had seen in the apartment could have been an extension of John, peeking around the corner to see what
his mommy and daddy were doing. As he recalled, he had never seen
the shadow person in the apartment when John was with him in the
same room. Neither had he ever seen it when John was not also in the
apartment.
Excerpt from Carson Dane’s novel: Alien Witness
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Daan Tant
Galactic Member
Belgium
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 09:14:21 AM
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Awesome, simply awesome.
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Grey
Galactic Member
Spain
491 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2009 : 09:53:45 AM
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Wow, thanks for sharing Carson.
In my experiences with shadow people, I also can see them in my peripheral vision, but when I try and look directly at them, they quickly move out of my vision range.
If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 3:21:03 PM
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Nice post, Carson. I'm reading your entire website and then I'll read your book.
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calperia
Galactic Member
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2009 : 8:52:45 PM
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Interesting topic...
I, too, have seen these shadow beings out of the corner of the eye. Made me wonder if I was actually seeing something or simply imagining it. But my daughter, who used to work for a major department store, actually had multiple encounters with the hooded figure, whom she referred to as "that annoying monk!" She said the being looked as if it were clothed in medieval monk-like garb, and it followed her around, "spying on her" as she did her job. At one point, she got so frustrated with this being popping in and out of her periphery that she took off chasing it around the store. Now that must have been a sight...and I'm sure my daughter's co-workers wondered what the heck she was doing running pell-mell up and down the aisles! Ofcourse, she never did catch it, but she said the chase made her feel better!  And the hooded figure ceased to annoy her after that. Go figure!
The universe is a strange, strange place...but awesomely fascinating! 
Have a great weekend!
Your Pal,
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HumanAlien
Galactic Member
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2009 : 9:34:33 PM
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They could be extra dimensional beings kind of in between two dimensions
at the same time. I really don't know though.
I see shadowy figures myself but i can never make out the shape of them.
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Grey
Galactic Member
Spain
491 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 05:43:26 AM
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That's actually one theory about them, here's another just to throw it out there 
Perhaps they are beings moving through time, space, or dimensions, and they are just the shadows of the people who are moving.
i.e. If someone was going through time in the future, and going back to about the 1900s, then we may see the shadows of the people moving back through time, as they move back through our time.
That's pretty hard to explain, if you want me to have another crack at it, I'd be pleased to  .
If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
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Elrick
Galactic Member
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Posted - 07/03/2009 : 08:46:07 AM
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Perhaps these things exist in the very same space or dimension as us, but we just can't see them. Lets not forget that humans see only a small percentage of the whole (visible light)spectrum. Perhaps what you are seeing is the phantom image of something moving in a range your eyes or brain dont normally percieve. We actually see a very small percentage of the world around us. There may be a multitude of entities that exist just outside the visible spectrum. It's interesting that humans often associate anything that appears non-physical or not completely solid or visible, with a ghost....which they then associate a ghost with a dead human. That's quite a jump when you consider all of the possibilities. Very interesting topic.
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Edited by - Elrick on 07/03/2009 08:46:36 AM |
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Grey
Galactic Member
Spain
491 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 1:33:38 PM
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That's actually one of the best explanations I've heard, and if it's the case, that explains a lot.
If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
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HumanAlien
Galactic Member
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Posted - 07/03/2009 : 6:39:40 PM
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I often also see bright sparkly dots of white silver lights dancing
around in front of me. I've been seeing these for years and i just
figured something is wrong with my eyes or my brain. They don't last
long though.
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