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Elrick
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 Posted - 06/30/2009 : 09:22:58 AM
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This is just plain ridiculous. This poor teen. This is a prime example of how the poison of religion can infect the mind. Its hilarious and very sad, all at the same time. And people can't see the dangers of religious dogma. It drives me insane. It's like the world is suffering from a form of mental illness and we keep accidentally kicking the antidote pill further under the counter. We keep reaching for it. We can feel it on our finger tips but just cant grab it yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s29tDh21GGg&feature=dir
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HumanAlien
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Posted - 06/30/2009 : 11:20:12 AM
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Yeah. I think religion has gone a little to far with this sort
of thing. I think gay people have their wiring messed up in their
brains. They are probably the type, (speaking about men) that think
that they were born as a male but think they should have been a female.
This is why they prefer men or women. As you may already know, all
human babies, still in the womb, start out as a female until genes
kick in that tell the growing fetus that it should be a male. It does
fine converting the body parts to a male but i think it messes up on
the brain.
This is the sort of stuff that scares people away from religion, when
they see this sort of thing going on.
It makes me think about those snake handlers in the south that lets
poisonous snakes wrap themselves around a persons neck and all the
ruff handling of them that occurs.
They claim jesus will protect them from being bitten but when
someone is bitten, then they claim the persons faith wasn't strong
enough to protect them.
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Elrick
Galactic Member
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Posted - 06/30/2009 : 12:16:35 PM
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Well, I dont really want to turn this into a gay bashing thing but I do disagree with one thing you said H/A. But at the same time I dont think you are necessarily wrong. It's just your opinion based on your experiences which is what we all draw from. But here is my own personal take on this at the moment. It's not the correct view or the wrong view. It is simply my own view and should not influence the opinions of others on its own. We need to start thinking for ourselves but that is a whole other subject, lol. Anyways....
I dont believe gay people have messed up wires in their heads. I think it has more to do with experiences and being a product there of. The stigma that has been pushed for a very long time is that being gay is wrong in some way. Christians use the bible and say that it's wrong because God says it's wrong, but that again doesnt set any moral boundries. It is simply saying that to be gay is wrong because God says so, but still never addresses the issue of why it is wrong. But even if you claim no religious affiliation, it has sort of been inbred into our society. Most believe it is something unnatural before they even try to research homosexuality throughout history. We are taught to hate anything that is different or not approved of by somebody. The ironic part is that this mindset was primarily pushed by the church, all the while, their pastors malest young boys. It's like preaching morals to the africans while denying them condoms which could save many many lives.
It's all insane immoral logic and we have all been effected by it to some degree. I'm not really a gay supporter. I am a supporter of anyone who chooses to live their life, however they see fit, as long as it doesnt cause harm to others. I'm more of a live and let live type. However you choose to live your life is fine by me as long as it doesnt step on my own personal natural freedoms or those of others. I'm not here to sit in judgement of others. I dont understand being gay but I would never condemn it. I used to be very predjudist against gay people. I was sucked into the mindset that there was something wrong with gay people but it is a stigma. Just like the stigma that atheist are immoral and horrible people because they dont believe in god. These things just simply arent true. But I never saw it until I got to know a few gay people. I'm still a little predjudist though, it saddens me to say. I dont mind gay people anymore but I do have a personal problem with guys who choose to act like bigger sissies then a 7 year old girl. It's an exaggerated feminism where these dudes even give women a bad name. Women dont act like sissies so I dont know why these guys do. But again, these are my own personal predjudisms that I am working to overcome. It's really hard to be a modern human and not be so judgemental....but I am trying, lol. We have a bad habit of imposing judgements on others while ignoring our own faults. This is an extremely hard habit to break free of.
But what these religious fanatics are doing to that boy should be against the law. It's a clear violation of his free will. It's sickening but is just one example of the sickness of modern man. They are trying to convince him that there is something wrong with him because he is not like the rest of them....so they must try to convert him because there is no room in their world for people like the young boy. This is part of the sickness associated with being different or percieved as different. The sickness is everywhere, and is not just bound by religion and it's not always easy to recognize. You might say it's part of the hate breeding and reflects how we are taught not to accept those that are different.
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Matt9537
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Posted - 06/30/2009 : 6:57:48 PM
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I cannot find the words to express how shocked and sickened I am by the video...but:
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dont believe gay people have messed up wires in their heads. I think it has more to do with experiences and being a product there of. The stigma that has been pushed for a very long time is that being gay is wrong in some way.
According to what I am aware...being gay is to do with horomones. An article I was reading some months back pointed out...that at a brief time during maturity...many male teenagers do feel attraction to same sex. It is mainly sub concious...they may not be aware of it conciously...but it does happen. Once the hornmones sort themselves...its fine...
So maybe not "messed up" heads but maybe it is linked to the body more than free will?
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Elrick
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Posted - 06/30/2009 : 9:00:12 PM
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Yeah could be. When I really think about it, I think there are many possible factors that might contribute to it. And it may be different for different folks. It could be the female-to-male conversion that H/A mentioned. Maybe its slightly genetic. Maybe it is part experiential. Like suppose you had a life where you had bad experiences with the opposite sex or just feel more comfortable with the same sex. But regardless, it something real and attaching a stigma to it to such a point that people feel they need to hide in shame and live a lie, is just sad. And this video just turns my stomach.
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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 06/30/2009 : 9:21:03 PM
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I would've thought we were more civilized than that in this day and age. I thought religious "witch trials" were a thing of the past. Obviously, we, as a people, have more problems than we realized.
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Matt9537
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Posted - 07/01/2009 : 5:56:35 PM
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Originally posted by Elrick
Yeah could be. When I really think about it, I think there are many possible factors that might contribute to it. And it may be different for different folks. It could be the female-to-male conversion that H/A mentioned. Maybe its slightly genetic. Maybe it is part experiential. Like suppose you had a life where you had bad experiences with the opposite sex or just feel more comfortable with the same sex. But regardless, it something real and attaching a stigma to it to such a point that people feel they need to hide in shame and live a lie, is just sad. And this video just turns my stomach.
"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice."
Yes a multitude of reasons. A few other points I thouhg off: Isn't it always the men who hang around with loads of girls the gay ones? I mean...where the men only have girl friends no boy?
And the men who are obbessed with their appearance...dont they tend to be gay...or gay like? Normally such things could be due to upbringing and being bullied...
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Grey
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Posted - 07/02/2009 : 05:17:39 AM
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This is awful, I can't think of any other ways to describe it.
Also, I've always been taught that sexuality - like many other characteristics - is decided at fertilisation. The temporary attraction to their own sex may be due to all the hormones, but I don't think hormones permanently affect sexuality.
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Elrick
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Posted - 07/02/2009 : 2:26:56 PM
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I saw a commercial for scientology this morning on a news network. Sort of made my stomach sink a little. I hope it's not a new trend. Those guys scare me. They would like to cleanse the world of all nonbelievers as well. They have a very dangerous mindset. Don't like em, don't like em one bit, no sir! 
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