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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  6:23:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright. Well I think I had a spiritual experience. A few days ago, I subjected myself to some psychoactive drugs. Yesterday morning, I woke up and ended up in the bathroom thinking I was gonna die (y'know how the drugs can do that to you). Now I'm not one to believe in God or anything, but I started praying and asked for God to protect me. All of a sudden I felt this warmth in my body and even though my mind was screaming to do one thing, my body seemed to have a mind of it's own. I walked to the sink and started splashing cold water all over my arms and my face and then I started walking towards the kitchen and I kept rubbing the cold water in circles on my face even though I looked like a fool. I got to the kitchen and my brain said to make coffee to sober up but my body got a cup and filled it with water and I must've drank like 4 big cups. And, I tell you, the whole time, I felt completely safe. Like nothing could hurt me at all. I felt like I could walk through hell and be perfectly safe. I don't know if it was the pills that were just playing with my mind or if it was the real thing.

Another thing that happened was me getting hypnotized. Alright, well my friend tony is completely...out there. Does all that black magic and stuff. Like, we were playing poker, and even though we all took turns shuffling the cards, tony still got a flush 5 times in a row and one time, a 4 of a kind. That night, we were all in the room with the air conditioner, cuz it was hot, and we had the lights out.
Tony started walking us through it, telling us to close our eyes and that sort of stuff. Then he started speaking in some other language and we all passed out and we woke up together. I don't know what he had us doing but it was cool. He said the language was a "dead language" that was before egyptian. I had no idea that hypnosis was real, as I'm not one to believe in things like that. He said that anyone can be hypnotized, but when you're high, you're more "open" to things like that.

Tony was also riding my bike last night to go get some more pills and he got hit by a car. He came back though and was completely fine, like he just walked away from that. At first I didn't believe him but he showed us a big gash on his leg. How many people just walk away from getting hit by a car?

Another strange thing is that while I was having that spiritual experience, I had this strong urge to stay away from Tony.

I've talked with one of my friends who also took the pills and we both agree that Tony's obviously the "cult leader" type. We felt a strong urge to do anything Tony said. Which is weird, because Tony's always been the quiet one.

I don't know what to think as I'm still tripping. I took those pills like 2-3 days ago and I still can't get sober, even though it only lasts about 8 hours for my friends. Coffee and sleep doesn't seem to help. I'm hoping it'll just go away sometime soon. Any suggestions/comments?

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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  03:42:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Isn't anyone going to reply?

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Grey
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  05:27:14 AM  Show Profile Send Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh damn, sorry Brandon, I don't usually look at the "Mysterious and Unknown" threads.

I'm unsure of this. Part of me wonders whether you've had a spiritual experience, but another, agnostic part of me wonders whether just your body's survival instinct took over, and you were simply running on adrenaline and other hormones.

The fact that you had an urge to stay away from Tony can again be split in two.
1: The body responsible for your spiritual experience wanted you to stay away from Tony, because of the black magic, and other stuff.
2: Simply your subconscience ran through what had happened that night, saw you'd been hypnotized, which you never have been before and thought that that experience was responsible. As it was Tony who did the hypnotizing, well, you would have wanted to stay away from him wouldn't you?

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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  07:54:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those are the exact same questions that I've been asking myself. So far I've come up with the following explanations:

Spiritual experience: A result of the pills and, yes, my survival instincts. I did all of those things because of the knowledge I already have and my survival instincts simply pulled the knowledge from my sub conscious. I felt like I needed to stay away from Tony because I knew that I needed to get a clear head and Tony was definitely not helping me do that.
Hypnotism: It only seems to work when you're high. Tony said that's because you're more "open" to things, but I think maybe he's just saying a bunch of gibberish and making us think he's hypnotizing us.
Tony getting hit by the car: He was high on pills at the time. I've heard of stranger things.

The only thing I can't explain, though, is how Tony kept winning in Poker. We each took turns shuffling and Tony got a flush 5 times in a row and a 4 of a kind. If you can come up with an explanation to that, I'm all ears.

On the flip side, this whole experience has made me quit my life of drugs and partying and turned to a more spiritual outlook. I've even quit cigarettes, something that I had refused to do even with the repeated taxes. I've also been praying a lot lately and, for brief periods of time, I do feel a difference. For a few minutes, I feel extremely empowered, but then it goes away.

On one hand, I feel intrigued by exploring the mind along with my friends, but I also feel that they're headed down the wrong path, one full of violence and despair. One thing is certain: I don't like anything that gives control of my life to another person.

The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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Grey
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  08:55:30 AM  Show Profile Send Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As for the poker thing, there is no rational explanation that I can think of.

If anyone wonders, I'm one of the guardians of this site, a veteran forum member.
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Elrick
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  12:34:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry for not responding sooner Brandon. My apologies. I've been busy with a couple projects the last few days and havent had much time for posting. But you done did it! You asked for responses, lol. Maybe you should have said, "anyone besides Elrick want to respond?" lol. It's not that your post didnt interest me. I am actually quite interested in spiritual experiences or awakenings. I have been trying to understand my own for a while now and unfortunately a small part of it may be due to my relationship with mind altering drugs. I started playing music in bars at the age of 15 and was exposed to a lot of stuff that I never had to pay for. Back then I wasnt as into all of this stuff we talk about here and could care less most days.

So I must admit that I too went through a time when I did a lot of experimenting with different types of drugs. This was before you seen so many of the new stuff on the streets. Back then nobody knew what oxies or extasy was and cystal meth was just about to come on the scene. Back then it was pot, opium, LSD, coke, speed and shrooms that was everywhere...shrooms being my favorite as far as mind altering. But I would not suggest any of them to anyone...especially tripping. It bends your mind and can make you believe all sorts of crazy stuff. You might truly believe Satan is whispering in your ear, or that God is wrapped around you. You might even have a truly spiritual experience and connect to your higher self but the ego persona is usually so strong in most people that it delutes or compromises the experience. Fears, hopes, general feeling and even random thoughts can be extremely exagerated. The most common is the notion or feeling that you are going to die. Shaman often use mind altering drugs for their spiritual journeys but they better understand it and are better prepared for it.

Something happened to me during those years and I am not sure what was the cause of it. I think it was some sort of spiritual experience although I cannot put my finger on it. I doubt it was the drugs themselves but I have often wondered if perhaps it was through the drugs that I made better contact with my true self. This change had to be more gradual but it was like one day my thoughts were clearer. I saw the world differently. I had previously hated the world I lived in but without a clue as to why. Now I better understood why. I started seeing problems everywhere. I suddenly went from the perspective of wanting to leave this cruel world, to the perspective of wanting to make it better. I saw problems that needed to be fixed around every corner. I started recognizing hate and predjudisms everywhere. I used to be very predjudist...against gays and black people primarily. I was raised by my grandparents and they were very old-world and predjudist. The N word was rather common, but today I can hardly even bring myself to say that word outloud.

I have thought much about why people sometimes change rather dramatically...why I am different now then the person I remember from my youth. It feels at times that I am remembering an old friend but that old friend is supposed to be me, so I cannot understand why I feel so disconnected to the old self. It's like I am remembering somebody I knew a long time ago but that person is not me. It's very strange and I dont understand it. Maybe this change had nothing at all to do with drugs. But I have associated it with spending so much time in an altered state, seperated from the ego and physical reality. But I have had a few unexplained experiences that may also be connected. Part of each of our own personal journeys is of self discovery and I think I will know the answers someday or at least come to a conclussion that suits me.

But regardless, all I know is at some point I went from a muddled mind with unclear thoughts, not caring about much...to a calm mind with more complex thoughts and caring about everything. My thoughts seem somehow more organized now, more focused. I started thinking more obssessively about the state of the world and its people. A huge amount of empathy and guilt was awakened or introduced to my personallity. I hate it most times. It causes me more discomfort then anything else ever did. I have seen this in other people as well so I am not unique in any way or special, so dont go there. And there are things now that I sometimes wish were not a part of me. I find it much harder to connect with people on a personal level. There is a slight feeling of seperation that is rather uncomfortable but I think this might be more common then I am aware of. I see problems with everything and feel the need to analyze everything to an insane degree.

Some of these changes or developements have been possitive but some have been rather inconvenient. I seem to have a nack for identifying potential problems quickly and seem obsessed with pointing them out...I wish it was solutions. I seem to have a far better understanding of cause and effect then I ever did as a youth. Somebody can just say a word or mention a topic and all this stuff just starts flowing out of my mouth before I even realize that I've already lost most of the people in the rooms attention...they are starting to look at me strange or turn away so I have to remind myself that I am doing it again and just shut up. Other times it's wonderful though. On rare occasions this has happened and everyone didnt look at me as though I was the weird guy. Sometimes everyone will stop talking and turn to me and just listen. And it's like I am really reaching them on some other level. But once I am done talking I am overcome by a new feeling of discomfort. But this I have identified as part of my own insecurities and issues of insignificants.

So I have to ask if any of you have noticed a change similar to this in yourselves? I've been wanting to ask but wasnt sure how to present this in a way that wouldnt make you think I was just going all crazy again. Then Brandon goes and presents an oportunity for me to, lol. I have been wondering if this change that I have noticed in myself could be globally, as I dont believe I am anything special or unique. I am wanting to attribute this to the awakening of consciousness in all humans. I think we are evolving on a spiritual level. Perhaps if there is a change in human consciousness occuring, then maybe this change is a reflection of entering a new area of space and its not just humans that are being pushed to evolve...but our entire area of space, or the entire universe for that matter. Is it possible that for just a moment Brandon, you made direct contact with your higher conscience, your true self? Or if we are all part of or different aspects of the same universal consciousness, did you connect with it? Did your mind take over and play on your hopes and fears due to the drugs or was it something much deeper?


Well, sorry to go into all of that. I am doing it again. Well, I'll try to get back to your post more directly. The strange language is interesting. It makes me wonder if your friend was messing with you or speaking a true dead language. How would he know a truly dead, pre-egyptian language. It must not be truly dead if he knows it. Any chance he was just making one up or using one you dont know? There are fake languages that people learn occasionally from fiction. For example, a fan of Lord of the Rings might learn the elvin language that was invented for the movies or a Star Trek fan might learn the Klingon language that was invented for the series. Could it have been something similar? And I would be very leary of being hypnotised while under the influence, especially if the one in control is inexperienced. If both are under any sort of heavy influence, then wait until you are not. Luckily the survival instinct is much stronger then a hypnotic suggestion so you can't be made to kill yourself or anything like that but there are other less extreme worries.

I've known of people you dont want to play poker with, lol. They are basically stage magicians when it comes to manipulating the deck. No real magick of course but you would think so. A true pro can end up with about any hand they want, especially if the viewers dont know the tricks or what to watch out for. I suppose it could have been a coincidence but that is an awful lot of coincidence to be all in a row like that. Anything special about your friend Tony? This is a stupid question but one I have to ask...are you possitive he is just a human? If he is definately human, is it likely that this person has studied true spiritualism or the true nature of reality and has made contact with his higher self, and thus has learned to manipulate this reality on a conscious level? This is highly unlikely that your friend would have fallen outside the standard mold but I'm not going to say it's impossible. Such things usually take the majority of a lifetime to achieve. Could he be a member of one of these secret societies that supposedly still practice old-world beliefs? Or he is just really good at screwing with you?

Also, Satanism is much more alive in the modern world then people want to admit. Many of these secret groups supposedly practice such things. We are taught to admire, respect and look up to many of our forefathers while ignoring or burying the ugly truth. For example, most people think Benjamin Franklin was a great man. And it would appear so, until you get to the bit about how when they tore up the floors in his home to renovate it and possibly create a museum out of it, only to find the bodies of 10 children. Just one example of a possible hidden darkness underlying our society, hidden just out of site. I hope your friend isnt into the occult.

Well, sorry to dump all of that other stuff on you. You can understand why I hesitate to post sometimes, lol. I also have to ask if you have noticed any changes in yourself or others around you since? They might be subtle or not recognizable at first but keep your eyes open. Pay attention to everything, no matter how insignificant it appears at first. I would make note of your thoughts and any changes in behavior. Maybe you just had a bad trip....maybe not. Ok, I have to stop now.






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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  3:37:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For one thing, Tony is very spiritual. Not religious, just spiritual. He practices all kinds of magic, mind tricks, etc. I've always been doubtful before, but now...I don't know.

Also, I have noticed a lot of changes with everyone. All of my friends have been taking loads of drugs for the past few days and now they all think they're vampires. Apparently they've been cutting each other and drinking the blood. These are my close friends and I'm scared that I'll have to leave them behind. I think it's plain lunacy. For myself, I can't snap out of this..."higher awareness", if that's what you want to call it. I can't focus, I'm jittery...I believe in God now and that's weird because just a few days ago I was an atheist. On one hand, I want to explore these new things, but on the other hand, I have the constant fear that what they're doing might be evil in some way. I don't know if I'm just being paranoid about everything or what, and I have no idea what's causing this. The pills were supposed to wear off within 6 hours. That was 4 days ago, so I don't think that's it. But what else could it be? I'm trying everything to get sane again because I truly do feel out of my mind. I can't work either so I have no money (I work from home as a writer). I decided to quit smoking cigarettes but then I experienced the awful hell that is nicotine withdrawal, so I finally gave in and had a smoke. I don't know if I'm going to quit now or not.

What should I do? I feel like I'm losing my mind and I don't know what to do. Can someone please give me some information that can help?

The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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Grey
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  4:37:17 PM  Show Profile Send Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd be careful around these friends who think that they're vampires.
There was a case a few years where some teenagers who'd taken drugs thought they were vampires, and they murdered someone, to drink their blood.
I'd be careful around these people if I were you.

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Elrick
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  7:21:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah I would take Grey's warning very seriously. Im not sure how much I would persist in trying to straighten them out either for fear that they may target you, if they feel you are not "one of them". This can be very dangerous. You definately should resolve this issue as soon as possible.

I would start with finding a quiet space. Sit or lay back and calm yourself. Try to let all thoughts escape your mind. Go to a quiet place in your mind if you have to. A tree by a brook is always a nice setting. Sitting on the peak of one of the great pyramids might be nice. You might try sitting in the center of a stonehenge type structure or simply floating in nothingness, surrounded by the quiet beauty of space. But wherever you go in your mind, make sure it is a peaceful and quiet setting. Dont allow thoughts to form. The idea is to let the ego-self and the thinking part of the brain to go quiet, allowing the true self, the awareness to come forward. Quiet the conscious mind so that the subconscious can be better heard. When you have strengthened the bond between physical self and the higher consciousness self, the drugs will not effect you. Only the physical mind and body are effected. It sounds like you need to recenter yourself.

There are lots of places you can create in your mind and go to. Imagine a huge Nasca line of an image that has some meaning for you. Make it huge and walk it calmly and slowly. When you reach the center. You should be relaxed and calm. Have a seat and meditate for a while. There are tons of techniques you might try. As you walk the lines, you could envision layers of blackness being stripped away from you as if you are walking out of it. With each layer of blackness stripped away, your body glows brighter and brighter until there is no darkness left at all.

Another techniques is to lay down somewhere and imagine a light or glow slowly moving from your toes to the top of your head. As this shield or warmth crawls up your body you will actually feel a slight sensation of it. Imagine that this light is one of cleansing and protection. If you feel that you are under some form of spiritual attack or danger, you can imagine this as a sort of protective shield that doesnt go away. I would also try to find something good for your body like pure fruit juice is always nice. Nothing with artificial stuff or chemicals in it. But if you are successful in your meditation, you really wont need anything else. The mind can be used to correct the body just as it can be used to disrupt it. Experiments have shown that the mind can overcome the most powerful of drugs if it is disciplined enough.

I wont touch this god thing. That's all you for now. It could be a product of anything from a suggestion while hypnotised, to your own inner desires surfacing, to an actual contact with the true source of your existence, (call it God if you like) the real you beyond your physical existence. I am not an atheist. I'm more of an agnostic fundamentalist if I had to actually label it. But labels are only good temporarily anyways as we are in a constant state of flux, ever changing as new experiences are added to the whole. Try the visualization techniques. You will be suprised how powerful they can be. You might try seeing your body filled with a grey or dark smokiness. Imagine that the darkness is all of the toxins and negativity of this world pressing down on you. Then envision a cleansing light slowly coming over you, forcing this darkness out of your body and cleansing you. You mentioned smoking. Do you guys have those new FSC cigs yet? You can tell because somewhere (usually above the upc code) it will be stamped FSC. I hope you havent had a bad reaction with the drugs and the toxins in the paper from these new cigs. Perhaps the new fsc paper and certain drugs are a bad mix. I dont know. Im just throwing out a few guesses here. You sound like you need help so I want to help you.




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Grey
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Posted - 07/03/2009 :  05:26:22 AM  Show Profile Send Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like Elrick says, if you try to straighten them out you may be targeted for not being one of them. I wouldn't say anything bad to them either, anything, just in case they turn on you.
Just be careful Brandon. Be careful.

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Elrick
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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  11:36:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone heard from Brandon? It's been 2 days. I hope everything is ok. Maybe he has just been busy. Hey that's no fair, leaving us worrying like that, lol.






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Posted - 07/04/2009 :  11:53:13 AM  Show Profile Send Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't heard anything from him lately, which is slightly worrying, but he's probably just doing other things.

You can keep up with Florida news here:
http://www.cfnews13.com/
So if anything happened it would be on there.

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Brandon Dennis
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Posted - 07/06/2009 :  11:22:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey everyone. sorry to keep you all worrying like that. i've been over there for the past four days. I've got everyone sane again and we've just been partying. happy late 4th, btw. Our country is 233 years old.

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Elrick
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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  08:30:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good to hear Brandon. Yeah, you had us wondering, lol. Glad everything is ok.



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Posted - 07/07/2009 :  10:59:29 AM  Show Profile Send Grey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh good, glad to hear you're ok Brandon.

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Posted - 07/08/2009 :  4:40:55 PM  Show Profile Send calperia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brandon,

I know you don't know me, like Grey and Elrick do, but I've been around the forum for quite a few years, so all of the consistent posters seem like family, in a way. I am one of those rare birds who never took drugs or smoked cigarettes or drank to get drunk (I have a couple of glasses of wine a year--whoopee! ) I've always gotten my "highs" from the peacefulness & beauty of Nature--a long walk in the woods, a hike in the mountains, a day spent near a winding, babbling brook, et al. I also meditate, and--because I believe in the holographic universe theory--I try each day to create my "reality" through meditation and positive speech. Sounds boringly simplistic, but--dang!--seems to work whenever I'm consistent with it.

I agree with El & Grey that you need to be careful around certain folk--even those you have termed "friends." Sometimes even friends can get off into things that are harmful and destructive.

You seem to sincerely want to make some positive changes and walk a more constructive path. That is good, and I think you are right to feel that way. So go for it! I'm sure you know we all back you here!

As for spirituality...I am a spiritual person. Not a religious one, but I do believe in spirituality. I believe there is a force, a power, greater than us--call that power "God" or what have you. You may have had some sort of spiritual experience, but, as El & Grey both commented, it is difficult to tell whether it was real or a byproduct of the drugs. Try meditating when your mind is free and clear of drugs and see what happens then.

Oh...El: I congratulate you on finding your spirituality without the drugs, etc. I know some folks think they need them to open up doors into the spirit realm, or what have you, but I don't subscribe to that philosophy. You CAN become further enlightened (and I believe better so) through healthy meditation, as one avenue.

Hope this is helpful!

Have a safe & happy week!

Your Pal,
Cal
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