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Rob Mc
Reptilian Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 08/29/2009 : 10:45:22 AM
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Originally posted by Brandon Dennis
Ha, I saw that episode. It was on sometime in the past few weeks. I imagine the purpose for those worms is simply crowd control. Think about it. Why do viruses exist? To limit the population of other species.
The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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Haha,it can also be reversed, people exist to help viruses reproduce.
But i dont believe viruses were created to limit populations, thats just the way they have evolved its how they reproduce and survive, and evolution has grown to support that and without viruses yes populations would spiral out of control, but population control isnt their sole purpose.
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Brandon Dennis
Galactic Member
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2009 : 11:23:20 AM
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I mean on the grand scale. The universe seems to not care for individuals, just the grand balance.
The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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"If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be... if we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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"If you want peace prepare for war." ~ Vegetius
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"We may stand alone.....but we stand alone together" ~ Brandon Dennis
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treborn
Galactic Member
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2009 : 10:35:07 AM
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Does everyone think of GOD as the most powerful person ever that could change anything or prettymuch do anything.And he haves all these superstrainghts.
My life as i know it will change!
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Starmom
Galactic Member
USA
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Posted - 08/30/2009 : 11:27:37 AM
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a thick fog envelopes the valley below me. it is sunday.
i think of God.
not the God of the bible, of churches, of laws, rules, fears,
but the God as master artist, who designed the all of everything.
that "one blueprint" for the whole show, a show written, produced and directed by this Source.
(GOD) being such an elastic word...it is used too often without meaning.
i agree with E on many points. religions have made God small like man, with human aspects: anger, revenge, a force to be feared.
no folks, that is us. religions make God superhuman, but not God.
throw away the books, the theories, the old tired arguments.
look around you.
not only is the physical world set in a rhythm, a cycle if you will,
"as above, so below"... but the universe chants this same song.
the laws of phsyics are constant.
i am one of the old ladies of this forum. i have searched long and hard, had my intellectual crisis of faith, been humbled, and gone on
to believe that the universe has been designed,
set into motion, with mathematical precision,
and i believe there is a Source of this design.
has nothing to do with sin, hell, demons, damnation, purgatories,
whatever other false constructs man devises.
ironically, i think science will now reveal more about God than any religion, as they open sub atomic particles, as they begin to learn more about the constructs of the universe, they will find God.
if we could all shut up for a while, and listen,
not to the preachers, but to the stars, we would hear God's song.
God sings with light.
i wish and pray for a tranformation of all religions, not only to liberate man from fear, to liberate us from our notion that God is going to get even with us for our flawed existence,
but to recognize the perfection in which we reside.
another reason i believe in God is the life of the spirit.
this spirit, this anima, is in all things, and in us it seems to be
the point to eveything.
when i gave birth to my son, i saw his spirit enter this world.
no, no drugs. i saw the light of him come down into his body at the moment of his birth. i knew he would be a messenger.
he is now a deejay on the radio, gives speeches in schools about drug addictions, domestic violence, help. he is delivering the message. i am very proud of him.
i have always seen spirits, had imaginary spirit friends,
and consider the natural world as church.
that is where God is most obvious.
one message i keep hearing from the universe is for us to be new.
think new, see in a new way, solve problems with new ideas,
see God with renewed vision.
religions have maligned God,they act in ways not dictated by God but by themselves, they sell God, as if you could buy a plot in heaven by your weekly contributions.
God is free, available, abundant, at all times, everywhere.
in the gospel of st thomas, thomas asks jesus when the world will end.
jesus replies, the world will not end, the kingdom is right in front of you but you cant see. in a fog.
this book is not included in the bible. the bible is a closed entity. nothing can be added but things can be subtracted.
they dont want you to know you dont need priests, tithes,
ritual, all you need is your questing soul.
i know, E, you re not fond of the bible.
i dont base too much upon it myself. i like more to use it in debate with hardcore christians who think they are the center of creation.
creation itself is constant, it was not one singular act but a machinery that grinds out forms and shapes all the way to the rim and back.
i do believe that life is eternal, that each life offers its lessons, its challenges, and we hopefully grow by them,
in spite of the absurdities religions offer,
in spite of the cruel hostile world,
in spite all we see around us,
there is a spirit inside us, outside us, and across the universe,
in constant unrelenting light.
each and every one of you possess this piece of eternity.
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Elrick
Galactic Member
USA
3092 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2009 : 1:01:51 PM
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As always Starmom, beautifully written. I agree with many of your points. You know what one of my biggest issues is? The term God itself. I think it's a poor word to try to describe all of creation, all that is...the isness, that we are all a part of. When somebody uses the word god (with a capital G) referring to the creator of everything, I am reminded of the christian concept of god. They are the ones who dont call it by a name but instead just call it God, the ultimate authority..As if it is something seperate from us. But I do not feel that this is the case. To me that very term is a term born out of fear and ignorance and in my own opinion, should in no way be used to reference the beauty and wonder of all that is. The following is personal opinion only. Take it or leave it. It's of little importance right now. When I speak of "you" I am not referring to an individual but to the human society as a whole.
The creational force (for lack of a better term) is not something seperate from us. We are of it. We are a part of it. It's not something that requires or desires your worship. It is not good or evil. It is all around us. It is everywhere and everything. It is illogical to worship a god if you are referring to the creator of all things, without first worshipping all that is. It is all that is, all that exists, that is this thing most refer to as God. There is no way you can offend it or be forsaken by it. You are a part of it, a product of it. But humans look at it as if it were something seperate, something that requires acceptance, something they weren't already a part of.
(Fictional letter to the whole of human consciousness)
To truly respect, acknowledge, or worship this thing you refer to as God, you would respect and worship yourself and all other things. There would be no "I", there would only be "we". You would do your best to make this world and everything you touched, the best you could. You would find beauty and significance in all things, no matter how large or small. There would be no hate. You would have no need for currency. You would strive for the benefit of all, not the benefit of self. But you are not ready for this yet. But you are working towards it. It is one possible destination on the great journey of humanity. The universal consciousness is ever expanding, ever evolving and you are a part of that consciousness...and thus, are also ever evolving.
Thanks again for sharing your insight Starmom. I always enjoy reading your posts. And yep, definately not a fan of the bible or religion for that matter. To me they are very negative forces and I do not choose to align with them if you know what I mean. H/A and I also agree on several points, my biggest issue is just the terminology. I don't like it. It's something I have to get over.
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Edited by - Elrick on 08/30/2009 1:17:25 PM |
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Epic Faggotory
Reptilian Member
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 01:58:52 AM
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*smiles* I wish more people would see it this way.
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HumanAlien
Galactic Member
USA
1978 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 02:12:01 AM
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Right now, i only use the term God because that is what people
refer to it as and it's faster to spell God than it is The Source.
If i say the source, then people will question me on what the source
is and then i'll have to say God anyway, so it's a lot easier just
to say God.
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Brandon Dennis
Galactic Member
USA
1445 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 01:25:26 AM
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Hey El,
What do you think the world and people in general alike would be like if we were more universally aware? I think peace is ideal, but would it lead to the sacrifice of Individualism? It's our fears, hates, guilt, goals, mistakes, flaws, etc. that make up who we are, right? I'm just concerned that maybe we would lose sight of humanity in the quest for perfection. What do you think? (question open to everyone)
The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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"If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be... if we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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"If you want peace prepare for war." ~ Vegetius
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"We may stand alone.....but we stand alone together" ~ Brandon Dennis
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Rob Mc
Reptilian Member
Ireland
212 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 10:43:29 AM
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Originally posted by Brandon Dennis
Hey El,
What do you think the world and people in general alike would be like if we were more universally aware? I think peace is ideal, but would it lead to the sacrifice of Individualism? It's our fears, hates, guilt, goals, mistakes, flaws, etc. that make up who we are, right? I'm just concerned that maybe we would lose sight of humanity in the quest for perfection. What do you think? (question open to everyone)
The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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"If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be... if we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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"If you want peace prepare for war." ~ Vegetius
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"We may stand alone.....but we stand alone together" ~ Brandon Dennis
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My MSN messenger: Mr.BrandonDennis@gmail.com
My email address: Mr.BrandonDennis@gmail.com
It kinda would wouldnt it? I mean for peace to exist everyone would have to be the same, have the same religion, the same likes and dislikes, the same opinions, cos its these things that lead to divides, and rise of two oppossing ideals, much like communism and capitalism. There two mortal enemies.
But then again, its the illusion that next time it will be perfect that keeps us going.
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Elrick
Galactic Member
USA
3092 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 10:53:40 AM
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Hmmm, good question. Right now this is not foreseeable. We are too ego driven, too concerned about self, just as your question would indicate. I don't think it would be a loss of individualism. You must think of it in terms of unity and togetherness (woah crazy hippy). We aren't talking about hive minds and telepathy right? You mean just that if everyone was more say Buddahish right? If you are talking about all one shared mind kind of thing, then yes there is a bit of individualism lost. But there is a new strength in that. With that loss of individualism comes also a loss of fear. But I dont think that is what you are talking about. Could be wrong though.
What exactly is humanity? The current state isn't all that much to be proud of. Still so far to go. It's become stagnant. Fear and hate being replaced by love and acceptance is by no mean of loss of humanity. If anything, it's truly finding it. Humans have a great potential for love but it is our fears and hate that prevent us from developing it. Remember, you are not human first. You are human now. Your fears are human fears. I think they would fade with understanding. Fear is a funny thing. It can direct your actions without you even realizing it. The more isolated you are, the more the potential for fears. Unity brings strength. Overcoming our fears is a very big part of growth. Loss of individualism is not such a bad thing when you consider the loss of seperation. The current society has much seperation. Some people are placed up on an imaginary pedistal and treated like kings while others are pushed down in the dirt and allowed to suffer. There is little true equality.
I think some are slowly becoming ready for a new world, a better way of life. But there are still so many people who are not. Unfortunately people in possitions of power are very ego driven and are not at all ready for a change of focus. They like this world they have helped build. They have a lot invested. They are kings of their world and losing that is a great fear. It's hard to think in terms of "we" when you've spent your entire conscious life thinking in terms of "I". The lessening of individual importance means gaining overall importance as a society. Right now, most base decisions on "what is best for me" and not "what is best for all". If everyone would just do one thing, it would change this world dramatically. If everyone stopped doing what is right "for them" and just started doing what they know is right, could make such a difference. People are focused more on the consequences and how they would personally be effected. Individual importance overrides the needs of the many. When we think in terms of "I" we become more selfish and isolated.
Ignore me, just more crazy hippy talk.
***Edit*** I think we were posting at the same time H/A. Cool beans.
"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice." |
Edited by - Elrick on 09/01/2009 11:00:57 AM |
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HumanAlien
Galactic Member
USA
1978 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 10:55:34 AM
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I think all humans need to give up on religion, period!
Religion has gotten us into so many wars that could have been
prevented.
People should concentrate on their spirituality instead of their
religion.
Religion, is a man made concept and therefore it is imperfect in
every way.
If we were to concentrate on just our spirituality alone, it would
raise our understanding of self and of love. Love is something the
world needs more of.
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Rob Mc
Reptilian Member
Ireland
212 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 11:03:23 AM
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Originally posted by HumanAlien
I think all humans need to give up on religion, period!
Religion has gotten us into so many wars that could have been
prevented.
People should concentrate on their spirituality instead of their
religion.
Religion, is a man made concept and therefore it is imperfect in
every way.
If we were to concentrate on just our spirituality alone, it would
raise our understanding of self and of love. Love is something the
world needs more of.
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You Are A Spirit Having A Human Experience!
Ill drink to that!
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Elrick
Galactic Member
USA
3092 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 11:31:21 AM
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Me too, especially if you're drinking Crown. Pour me a glass and "cheers" fellas.
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Brandon Dennis
Galactic Member
USA
1445 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 11:58:49 AM
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Very good points. Kudos to both of you, El & H/A.
I'm a writer, though. I see the world as a plot. A plot without conflict is boring. 
The state is not armed with superior wit or honesty, but with superior physical strength. I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.
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"If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be... if we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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"If you want peace prepare for war." ~ Vegetius
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"We may stand alone.....but we stand alone together" ~ Brandon Dennis
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Elrick
Galactic Member
USA
3092 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 12:47:46 PM
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Originally posted by Brandon Dennis
Very good points. Kudos to both of you, El & H/A.
I'm a writer, though. I see the world as a plot. A plot without conflict is boring.
Oh there will always be conflict, lol. It would just transform. Without struggle there is no growth. But the struggle doesn't have to be with each other. There are plenty of struggles ahead. But we must get past struggling with ourselves and each other before we can even acknowledge some of them. There are many other forms of excitement awaiting a wanting eye. Boredom is a material world illusion. You are surrounded by wonder but you must want to find it. Life is too engrossing to ever be boring. How could anyone get bored? There are a billion things I want to experience but I know I will only have time for a very small percentage and I can't just think about myself while I am here. So you see, from my perspective, there is no time for boredom. Wow, this could turn into a book. I should stop before going too indepth. These are just my own feelings. Feel free to ignore them. I'm in a strange mood today, sorry.
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