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garylee513
M.I.B. Member


24 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2009 :  4:38:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just joined the forum thanks for having me, I am a long time amatuer explorer of the ufo/alien topics and want very badly for there to be a smoking gun but can honestly say I have yet to see it, though I have read and seen documentaries and even experienced a sighting that I cant explain away, I have an idea that possibly some videos and snapshots are simply elaborate hoaxes, maybe remote controlled blimps(they sell them online), doctored up with lights helium filled objects, airplanes, birds(I myself have seen a flock of birds that first appeared to be a solid object then broke up to be explained for what they were), as for eyewittness reports without pictures ,even the ones from cops and military, maybe these people were having problems in there life and wanted some acknowledgement for something no matter what it cost or meant saying, I can really understand that happening, (brings to mind the 2 guys that said they found bigfoot the one guy was a cop I saw the news conference and man that guy convinced ,turns out, Well we all know) the hard core believers somewhat remind me of fanatical christians, I dont want to offend anyone but jesus christ literally walking on water would be a similar experience to a ufo landing in your back yard, but if Jesus Crist was a david blaine type charachter it would appear he really did waLK on water so an elaborate hoax could fool many, any thoughts on all this, ok my kids are home back to earth for me thanks for listening, I am glad I found this forum thanks

FrmBlvr
Galactic Member



USA
934 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2009 :  4:41:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi GaryLee, welcome to the forum!

My personal favorite, and most convincing video is the "Tether Video" from a NASA space mission, check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNegUSWDmbg

There is also a ton of info scattered throughout the forum. Take some time and do some reading and you may find more than you can handle! Good luck!
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garylee513
M.I.B. Member



24 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2009 :  5:17:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is awesome!! thought provoking!!
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Elrick
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USA
3102 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2009 :  3:29:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum Garylee. Glad to have you aboard. Yeah it's hard to provide absolute proof to somebody seeking it. If we had absolute proof, then this subject would no longer be of such great contraversy. The NASA footage is pretty convincing. For me, I like the ancient history stuff. Very fascinating area. Tons to check out. You'll never have time to get to it all, lol. Have you heard of the Dropa Stones? I researched these many years ago for the site. Very fascinating stuff. But again it is but a needle in a hay stack.



http://www.crystalinks.com/dropa.html



"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice."
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shell
Human Member



USA
2 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  6:22:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The bible says in Luke 10:18 "I saw Satan fall from the sky like lightning from heaven", some versions say like a star. This is documentation of a spaceship coming to earth.
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Rob Mc
Reptilian Member



Ireland
218 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  6:35:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shell

The bible says in Luke 10:18 "I saw Satan fall from the sky like lightning from heaven", some versions say like a star. This is documentation of a spaceship coming to earth.



.......I'm trying very hard not to say anything to this

Firstly, the bible is not the most reliable of sources, secondly it has been written and rewritten time and again, and the quote itself could be interpretted in many different ways.....not saying that your wrong, but your going need more than just a qoute from the bible to
convince people.

We are the resistance!

Edited by - Rob Mc on 11/01/2009 7:30:07 PM
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Elrick
Galactic Member



USA
3102 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  6:42:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There was a video a while back that talked about the tale of Lucifer being a star, comet or planet that crashed into earth causing great upheaval on the planet. I dont remember the details very cleary but it was something to the effect of over time the christians had mutated this ancient story and Lucifer representing all things evil, became an actual being instead of just a star. The bible is full of mutated and rewritten ancient stories. Some of those stories could be based on actual events that were witnessed but likely not understood. But figuring out which ones are based on actual events and which ones are just stories is next to impossible.

Welcome to the forum Shell.


"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice."

Edited by - Elrick on 11/01/2009 6:44:22 PM
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treborn
Galactic Member



USA
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  7:28:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit treborn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like you guys ideas.

Just wanted to welcome Garylee to the forum.

Shell haven't seen you before either welcome!!!

And i love the idea of Satan crashing down from a lightingvolt!

My life as i know it will change!

Edited by - treborn on 11/01/2009 7:41:13 PM
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calperia
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USA
686 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  7:34:05 PM  Show Profile Send calperia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Garylee!

Nice to have you on board!

As El and the others have said, it is very difficult to prove the existence of aliens & ufos. I believe that irrefutable proof exists, but it is being purposely covered up. But that, in itself, is difficult to prove, due to the nature of the cover-up and the identities of those doing said cover-up.

So where does that leave us?

I guess it leaves us right here, discussing the issue and trying to make sense out of things we have seen and/or experienced; or things we are genuinely curious about.

Many of us have had experiences that lead us to believe in life "out there"--but we are careful not to spout off too much about them. Because, when all things are said and done, experiences (meaningful as they might be) are still not valid scientific proof. You can't really "hang your hat on them," so to speak.

So we think, and we share, and we contemplate, cogitate, and occasionally regurgitate our thoughts and ideas, in an attempt to make as much sense out of the subject as we can.

Keep your thinking cap on, Garylee, and keep questioning and searching. You'll be surprised at what you'll find, I'm sure!

Best Regards,
Cal
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garylee513
M.I.B. Member



24 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  9:42:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elrich, the link you posted is very interesting I read it 3x, funny thing is those disks look very similar too some of those nasa images, thanks for the info please post any of the convinceing stuff if you get free time and feel like it,as curious as I am my ufo prowess is a little weak, even though its something I think about often,and keep my eyes open too
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Elrick
Galactic Member



USA
3102 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  10:41:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Elrick's Homepage Send Elrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good eye Gary. You are correct. They do resemble the pulsating objects in the Tether video as well as some of the other space vids that show these same type objects flying into the clouds.



"For the devout believer, no evidence is necessary. For the devout skeptic, no evidence will suffice."

Edited by - Elrick on 11/01/2009 10:43:46 PM
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HumanAlien
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USA
1981 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  10:54:46 PM  Show Profile Send HumanAlien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forums garylee.

You can search through this forum if you like. There is a lot of stuff
already posted here that many of us have probably already forgotten
about.

It would also help if we knew exactly what you are trying to find to.

Like i already said, there is already a lot of stuff posted here but
there is no real proof of anything.

You could also start your search by going to Project Camelot.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/

There, you will find many video's of people that claim to have real
knowledge about alien's/ ufo's and many other topics.

Have fun.



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You Are A Spirit Having A Human Experience!
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Rob Mc
Reptilian Member



Ireland
218 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2009 :  06:31:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by calperia



So we think, and we share, and we contemplate, cogitate, and occasionally regurgitate our thoughts and ideas, in an attempt to make as much sense out of the subject as we can.




haha, I really like that

We are the resistance!
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calperia
Galactic Member



USA
686 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2009 :  3:45:44 PM  Show Profile Send calperia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Rob!

At times, my "poetic muse" lends me some colorful verbiage, lol! In a sense, we do regurgitate some topics, as they seem to come up again and again.

But, like the bovine chewing its cud, some topics need to be masticated more than once!

Have a great week!

Your Pal,
Cal
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garylee513
M.I.B. Member



24 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  5:12:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you have a nice flow calperia, meaning... well put! not sure my next comment has anything to do with that thought but I have oftened wondered this about myself, is my interest in ufos really just my way of escaping my reality and responsibility of dealing with these 3 kids that are thrashing around in the back ground whom I have and will pay much attention to by days end, but I guess I had great interest even before these kids came along,but, do I want truth or do I want a distraction from truth?
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Brandon Dennis
Galactic Member



USA
1448 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  11:49:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha. Good point. I hadn't thought of that before. Mathematically, there's gotta be aliens out there but the only reason why there's any point in chatting about them is mostly just to escape from our own boring lives. I like this forum, though. We don't just talk about aliens, we talk about everything. 'Tis home away from home.

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